Subject: [bug] Player's team-work

Hi, I would like some explanation of whats happening with this player or if it is a bug

The following player Alonso Sánchez Zapata was sold on 2024-01-27

After transfer, the team-work dropped to 0 as expected, but even after playing in different matches in league and even NT it is still in 0 as you can see in the following image from Sk Asistente



According to the rules:

Team-work:
- Represents how well a coach can teach tactics and how much the player has learned with that club
- Changes during training each week like other skills, independent of the training type selected. The growth depends primarily on head coach's general appraisal. This means that it could even drop if you change to a coach with lower general appraisal.
- Depends on time played in week matches like any other skills
- Assistants help to increase team-work, but their influence is lower than on other skills
- Older players' team-work increases and decreases in slower (they are more "change resistant")
- After every transfer, team-work of the transferred player drops down to the lowest value


It is crazy that after 10 weeks tem-work has not moved as this skill is the most variable in sk

This is the list of game for this player after transfer, I am highlighting match type for latest ones

2024-04-05 ventura c.f. - Manchester City [National Cup]
2024-04-03 Manchester... - Dabuten´s [league 1st division]
2024-03-30 Israel - Colombia [Offiicail NT]
2024-03-22 Catalonia FC - Manchester City [National Cup]
2024-03-20 Manchester... - BRONCAS BOYS - friendly
2024-03-10 BRONCAS BOYS - Manchester City - friendly
2024-03-08 Manchester... - BRONCAS BOYS - friendly
2024-03-03 sants - Manchester City [league 2nd division]
2024-03-02 Colombia - Kazakhstán [Offiicail NT]
2024-02-25 UE GUINARDO - Manchester City
2024-02-24 Colombia - U.A.E. [Offiicail NT]
2024-02-21 Manchester... - Cabezudos de ...
2024-02-18 Atletico L... - Manchester City
2024-02-17 O‘zbekis... - Colombia 0:9
2024-02-14 Manchester... - Duque Stars
2024-02-11 Manchester... - Isvar FC
2024-02-10 Colombia - USA
2024-02-07 Noal F.C. - Manchester City
2024-02-04 Manchester... - Chiretas
2024-02-03 Colombia - Latvija
2024-01-31 Peterrets ... - Manchester City
2024-01-28 Manchester... - Peterrets de ...


Also I want to share the form graph. I know (what is said) form has a random behavior, and you can use a player and form could drop, it is uncertain., But for sure if you dont use it, the form will drop, this is certain



my thought is that after transfer, this playeris going week after week as if he played 0 minutes.
I have confirmed with the owner and he "trains" as MID, same order for all his games, even this doens matter according to the rules


I would appreciate if devs set his form and team-work to divine

thanks

I have confirmed with the owner and he "trains" as MID, same order for all his games, even this doens matter according to the rules
It absolutely matters, wrong order = 0 minute training = tactical discipline at the bottom and more likely to lose form.
And he doesn't train as MID, owner probably doesn't know what he is talking about, it's possible to check training formation in api:

https://sokker.org/api/player/37562967


He is set to train as DEF.

Thanks a lot Mikoos, this is the info I got from the owner. He should know as he is playing in Spain 1st division.

Im going to double check!

It absolutely matters, wrong order = 0 minute training = tactical discipline at the bottom and more likely to lose form.

and yes, you are right on this.

What are facker you tell us?
How teem work depend on training?
It's a BUG!!! Because it's unlogic.
And you may to fix it
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He means that if a player only plays as MID and in the training place he's set to DEF, then there will be no training for the guy, because he played 0 minutes as DEF and thus will miss out on training. Missing out on training, means you will lose your teamwork. You would however see this easily on the training page, as this would be marked there for the manager; so it's weird. But let's let them check with the manager first.
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yep,

as per Mikoos, must be wrong order setup and topic can be closed

Still, this layer of order config for the ones who are not in advanced training can easily end up in human error, specially if the game encourage for multi skill players, then different order and large squad.
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